Not the Fucking News Again

Not the Fucking News Again

Welcome subverters. It’s been a while as Linda was sick but a new podcast is finally here.

During this podcast we premiere the new segment Not the Fucking News, talk about what’s not news and report on the filthy cops in Bad Cop No Donut.

In Australia it’s a national week of celebration for indigenous people so 40% of the music we play is from Aboriginal or Islander musicians.

Download from Radio4all.

The read Not the Fucking News.

We also mention…….. A t-shirt company in the US tried using the shocking image of Dylan Voller strapped to a chair in a youth detention centre. (we play the song Fool by Dylan’s sister Kirra during the show)

And the verdict is in plastic bag bans benefit the shop’s bottom line more than the environment.

Bad Cop No Donut features a piece by Riot Turtle from Enough is Enough about protests against new police powers in Germany.



INSURGE                  ……………….                                   Lock On    (ozi/f)

AGAINST ME                   ………………                          Baby I’m an Anarchist! (f)

BOWRA BOY                  …….                   Shows it feel Cuz      (ozi/i)

DCP                            ………………                  Wake Up          (bne/i/)
KIRRA VOLLER           …………..                 Fool         (ozi/f)
80% of music featured a female artist
40% Indigenous


Melb Hunt Saboteurs

Melb Hunt Saboteurs

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Linda and Max did this phone interview mid May with a representative from Melbourne Hunt Saboteurs. They remain anonymous out of safety concerns.

Who exactly are the Melbourne Hunt Saboteurs?

We are I guess you could call us a group of passionate and committed activists who have formed together under the belief that actions have always meant more than words, and who are very fed up with the current political climate of the animal rights movement in Victoria and probably Australia as well.

So the collection of activists who come to Melbourne Hunt Saboteurs initially come across to oppose the hunting of foxes with hounds within Victoria  but as we have found along the way that the collective understanding of the saboteurs in the group is that we are very frustrated – upset kind of takes ownership of it – but we’re frustrated with the current climate of the animal rights movement in Victoria.

How do you organise and how do you stop hunts?

Yeah.. so Melbourne Hunt Saboteurs is the first direct opposition to hunting with hounds in Australia… being the first brings about a lot of new things and first things and we’re the first and only club at the moment to come with the support and to be directrly associated with the Hunt Saboteurs Association in the UK who have been out sabotaging fox hunts for the last 60 years.

So what we do is a derivative of basic direct action, we get in the way of the hunt, a non violent style of direct action you know we bring no harm to the hounds or to the horses that are being dragged into this.

We used the methods that the Hunt Saboteurs Association in the UK have used and refined over the last 60 years. So it’s everything that the hunt use to control the hounds we use those tools those tricks in reverse. From voice commands to calling the hounds over to using [inaudible] horn, to the whip… never whipping the dogs but the whip signifies that the hounds need to stop.

Like the sound of it?

Yeah the sound of it even just the sight of it cracking a hunting whip is a skill in its own, a few of us can do .. we’re trying to so it on the run as well is a bit tricking so even just the sight of it is enough to make the dogs stop what they’re doing and come back.

Everything that the barbaric hunters use to force the hounds into destroying the fox we use to take control of the hounds. And then it becomes a game of cat and mouse we take control of the hounds they try to take them back. We never put the hounds at risk we never call them over a road or into an area that is dangerous for them but it definitely if the hunter is chasing a fox and the hounds are on a fox we’ll use everything we’ve got to call those hounds away from a live fox.

We’ve seen that we have guns at some of these hunts is there ever a worry about being shot?

Um yeah, we’d be really stupid if we didn’t acknowledge and have plans and methods in place for that. The law in Victoria is a bit grey but it’s also very clear in certain components so the hunts can legally chase a fox with their hounds and when we’re talking about fox hunting we are talking about that traditionalist crap of men and women in red coats chasing an animal for fun. And the law says they can do that but the law says they’re not allowed to let them attack a fox so that’s where the guns come into [it] um we sabotaged a hunt in Victoria two weeks ago and it was rather difficult because they were shooting foxes.. so called flushing foxes where they use the hounds and the fox horses to drive the fox out of its area and into the path of hunters who have guns so its always a bit tricky. We always dress in black and we cover our faces so we can’t be identified. You know dickhead hunters with small appendages and big guns like to shot anything so we have to be really careful with that one.

So far we haven’t really been confronted with too much violence involving hunters with guns but it’s a real live threat.

What’s the largest hunt that you’ve had to deal with?

In Australia our opening hunt which you can see all the footage on Facebook (Melbourne Hunt Saboteurs) we sabbed Oakland opening hunt he in Melbourne and that was pretty well attended with probably 30 riders. But we also had a crack at their combined closing hunt of the season 2017 and there were mores hounds but less [sic] riders. This time there were more riders about the same number of hounds. But I’ve also sabbed in the UK so I recently got back – just before the Australian season opened which runs from the end of April to the start of September – from the UK where I spent three weeks [inaudible] and sabotaging with the UK guys over there… their hunts were a lot bigger than what Australian hunts are.

How many hunt clubs are there in Australia?

Ohh far too many, at the moment we’ve focused all our intel and all our resources to just focus on the hunts within Victoria and I Victoria alone we’ve got 14 on our books which we need to keep tabs on and we know there’s a couple of smaller ones that pop up every now and then.

But Australia where ever the fox has been introduced you’ll find a club unfortunately, Sydney has a very prestigious club, Queensland has another couple of hunts and we’ve been approached by  a couple of people in Queensland wanting to set up a Queensland Saboteurs up there to oppose the blood sport and the class-ism of the people who attend hunts.

But Australia wide it wouldn’t surprise me if there were over a hundred.

Often people say that fox hunting is a necessary thing because foxes are an introduced species what do you say to that?

Well the truth is that the fox is well an introduced species. It was introduced shortly after white invasion and it was introduced by white invaders. So they could continue the tradition of hunting. So the fox is here of no fault of its own.

And yes it was a pest species, evolution is a funny thing. Time is also equally hilarious, the fox is not the villain that is is made out to be, you know the biggest aggressors towards the fox are the farmers people who are already profiting off the abuse of animals so animals of consistently lamb during winter are upset because the fox eats lambs. The fox accounts for four percent of farming loses.

In a perfect world we would say people should stop profiteering off animals. The fox is here whether it is classified as a pest, it’s not classified as a pest in New South Wales, it doesn’t exist in Tasmania, in Victoria it’s classified as a pest, it’s not classified as a pest in South Australia…… Australia needs to get its head around how we’re going to look at the fox.

Government programs to control the fox are well and truly there and they’re another fight we’re trying to take on. But I don’t think anything deserves to be ripped apart by dogs simply because a bunch of rich aristocrats want to chase it on horseback.

There’s no conservation value in hunting with hounds and that’s been widely reported in Victoria.


Did I read somewhere that they sometimes let out foxes especially for the fox hunt?

Yeah.. yeah… Look you’re absolutely right, like I said the laws are very specific, they’re not allowed to dig a fox out of its set, if a fox goes to ground they have to leave that fox alone.. and absolutely we are into our second season of opposing the hunt the evidence of foxes being let out simply for the hunt is there and we’re.. we’re waiting to gather some more intel before we can put a strong case together to shut there hunts down.

And just to be clear when you say let out like they’re let out of their burrow or do you mean they’re caught especially and then let out ?

Oh yeah the latter.

Yeah ok

So they’re caught especially, then they’re held  and then they will be let out. It’s really to point out as well, people always ask, what about the welfare of the hounds and the hounds are bred to do this. The hounds are bred to do this but the hounds that can’t do it are shot. The hounds in the hours before the hunt are starved, they’re deprived of everything so when they get out the hunt men who control the hounds, they’re blood thirsty because they have no food they’re starved so they have a drive to have that instinct … hold on we have to eat otherwise we’re not going to do too good as a general thing so.. as far as the welfare of the hounds we care for those hounds far more than the hunt does.

Unfortunately because the fox is marked as a pest I don’t think it comes under any protective laws at all. you know we’ve had… the times this season we’ve actually gone out we’ve had quite a surprising response from the police who have attended, which was a big shock to us.

Where they have.. um the officer who came out to our opening sabotage of Oaklands was very much on our side.. but .. again was very reluctant to put in place and uphold the law which he wasn’t too familiar with which really pissed us off.

Because why are you a police officer… whether or not you are familiar with the law .. we had the law printed out and saved on our phones and we’ve got documents to show you the laws of hunting with hounds on foxes ……mmm … the old blue didn’t want to get involved but he was surprisingly ok with us trying to put an end to this.

And is it actually illegal what they are doing?

Yes absolutely.

And it can’t be a cheap think for them to do so that’s even more sign of bourgeoisie exclusivity.

So when people in Australia, people think of hunting they think of duck hunters, your stereotypical bogan who drives with a couple of hunting stickers and hunting cages on the back tires that are to big for the car kind of deal. These people who hunt foxes on horse back are well to do, they’re lawyers, bankers, doctors, politicians, local council members, they feel that they are very well to do people. They have something called the stirrup cup where they drink wine that’s served to them on a silver platter while they’re on horseback just before the hunt.

And the fees to involved yourself in a hunt depending on its exclusivity can range anywhere from eight or nine hundred a year up to four and a half grand.

The Sydney Hunt Club is almost the same price as if someone was stupid enough to send their kid to a private school.
This is all about class, these people who are hunting these animals they have no welfare [concerns] for their hounds and they don’t care about animal welfare what-so-ever however you view the fox.

This is what they feel is their god given right as trying to molest the traditions from England. And they’re hunting over here… the white settlers invaded Australia and bought over the fox to continue the bullshit here. So these people are Liberal people who contribute to systems that are already in place to put the common person down.

As well as being an animals rights fight this is also a class fight we.. these people are barbaric, rich toffy wankers who simply think the saboteurs are uneducated peasants and it couldn’t you know be further from the truth.

Download the interviews.

If you want to find out more Hunt Saboteurs Association in the UK have some useful resources.

I checked the website of the Sydney Hunt Club and there is no mention of the welfare of the foxes.


Never Going To Turn It Down

Never Going To Turn It Down
 Music and laughs in this podcast. And can you guess when the Rick Roll is going to happen.
 About the new Tiny House Warriors Compilation
The Tiny House Warriors: Vol 1 is a part of a mission to stop the Kinder Morgan TransMountain pipeline from crossing unceded Secwepemc Territory.

Ten tiny houses will be built and placed strategically along the 518 km TransMountain pipeline route to assert Secwepemc Law.
Find out more here.


(Tiny House Warriors Comp)

 Monster Zuko Onsomb                      ………                                       Children of the Atom                                           

BRUNO MARS FT. CARDI B –                                   FINESSE / SANGO – me dê amor (baile flip)

ADULT                                             Don’t Talk

TEQUILA MOCKINGBIRD ORCHESTRA                       Head Tax (Tiny House Warriors Comp)

SOLE                      ………                             War on real parts
CHUMBAWAMBA                                      ……                                Give the Anarchist a Cigarette


Podcast – IWD BNE Clusterfuck, Kurdish Women Unite, ACAB

Podcast – IWD BNE Clusterfuck, Kurdish Women Unite, ACAB

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International Women’s Day in Brisbane by all reports was an absolute clusterfuck. It is disappointing that so much effort has been put into building up the event, but the organisers chose to ignore the feelings of a section of the community.

Women who do not recognise the existence of transgender women (trans exclusionary radical feminists) were welcomed – and even invited – to the event.

This caused conflict during the event which could have been avoided by ensuring all women were comfortable at the event.

Some chose to protest the event, some chose to try to find a peaceful resolution by mediating between the two groups.

There has been some unfortunate targeting of individuals since the event which I have been thinking about a lot and even since this show show recorded my thoughts have changed a bit.

Now thinking about it I think the clashes here are partly due to a difference in tactics. The main conflict has been between people who don’t want TERFs involved but chose different actions on the day.

I read a beautiful statement from Kurdish women to the world.

Let us turn the 21st century into the era of women’s freedom!

From the mountains of Kurdistan, in the lands where society developed with the leadership of women, we salute you with our great freedom, passion, ambition, and unbreakable struggle. From Rojava’s neighborhoods to South America’s forests, from Europe’s streets to Africa’s plains, from the Middle East’s valleys to North America’s plazas, from Asia’s mountains to Australia’s plateaus; with our love which knows no borders and with our most revolutionary feelings, we embrace all women who intensify the struggle for freedom and equality.

And in Bad Cop No Donut the police have been pretty busy fucking things up this week. And fucking vegetables



TEAM PLASTIQUE             ………………….         Superstar

GEOFF BERNER                              ……………………..               Daloy Polizei

ROB HUSTLE          …………………………..                                          Good Cop

KAH-LO                               …………………………..                            Fasta

BIG SHAQ                  …………………………………………                 Mans Not Hot

ROB HUSTLE                              …………………………..         Good Cops

CHUMBAWAMBA          ………………….                  Give the Anarchist a Cigarette

Bedding music – Les Rosevere (music for podcasts), Yassem Kurdish Folk Instrumental

Psychadelicatesson, Boy and Dove (Dragonflight 1999)






Rojava, Italy, Brisbane, with Love.

Rojava, Italy, Brisbane, with Love.

This show really is global. We have contributors and interviewees on most major continents.

This show is an example our global footprint.  An Italian Subversion team member connected us with a man who had fought with the People’s Protection Unit (YPG) in Syria. This interview is our main feature this week.

It might come as a surprise but we also have an interview with Donald Trump. We find out his answers to some pressing issues.

And Bad Cop No Donut with some shocking cases of police brutality.

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ANTI-FLAG        …………..     Underground Network

ALAS                       …………………………..                                  Cop Killer

AZIZ WAISI      ……………………………       Kurdish song

DDM                        …………………………..                   Class War

POOR PEOPLE                 ………………………………………                   Sold Ourselves

Featured Image – Love Birds for Kurdistan

War on Welfare: an anarchist perspective

War on Welfare: an anarchist perspective

This sedition of Subversion #1312 features an interview with anarchist Jessica Harrison. Jessica lives in Wonthaggi in Victoria. She is active in the Australian Unemployed Workers Union.

The union recent;y had a bit of a win when the government was unable to reach a deal with the Nick Xenophon Team regarding welfare reforms, which would see an expansion of the cashless welfare  card.

As the name suggests the AUWU which was founded in 2014 fights for the rights of unemployed workers.

They say it was when the Howard government introduced work for the dole in 1997-98 that a radical change in the attitude towards the unemployed occurred “quote overnight the unemployed began to be treated like criminals’.

We’ve also got Bad Cop No Donut and plenty of new music including a brand new one from Urthboy (clip posted below).

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Anarchist Solidarity

Anarchist Solidarity

Jock Palfreeman has been in jail in Bulgaria for about 10 years. Inside the prison he set up the Bulgarian Prisoners Association and campaigns for human rights inside the countries harsh prisons. We interview two anarchists who work to support Jock and keep his case in the public eye.

Bad Cop No Donut begins with a funny issue Victorian police are having with their uniforms, and we discuss the on going situation in Australia’s offshore detention centre on PNG’s Manus Island.

And the big announcement that we are now part of the Channel Zero Network of anarchist podcasts.

Listen Online

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Heaven 17 – Fascist Groove Thing info
The Basics – The Lucky Country info
Phil Monsour – Who Killed Reza Berati? info
Chumbawamba – Give the Anarchist a Cigarette info



Jock Palfreeman petition (you don’t have to be Australian to sign)

Jock’s latest text.

Bad Cop No Donut

Victorian police officers have called for new pants after reporting their current uniforms are splitting at the crotch when they are trying to arrest people.

Police Association Victoria secretary Wayne Gatt said members had reported poor-quality and ill-fitting pants.

“The material used in manufacturing the pants is particularly unpopular with members, who have advised that the material does not breathe, and that the pants cause excessive sweating particularly in summer,” he said.

Mr Gatt said some officers had complained the excessive sweating had caused them medical problems.

He said the trousers limited police movements when they were trying to make arrests.

“Our members tell us that the cut of the pants limit their movement when they are required to execute some of the defensive techniques they are trained to perform, and are particularly limiting when they are required to complete routine policing tasks, such as jumping fences,” he said.

Western Australian police have released a promotional video made  to publicise its “Goodbye Graffiti” campaign.

The video has gone viral but for all the wrong reasons or maybe that was the plan.

It depicts a young couple walking through the streets of the inner-city Perth suburb of Leederville and buying coffee.

“Thank you so much for today — what’s the special occasion?” the woman asks.

“Remember those guys who were tagging the bus stop?” her companion says, as the video cuts to a scene of youths spray painting a bus shelter as sinister music plays.

“I got sick of them doing it and tagging, so I reported them,” he says. “I didn’t realise it, we got a reward.”

The WA Police campaign offers rewards for those who provide information about people who graffiti, in an attempt to save some of the estimated $25 million graffiti removal costs the State annually.

Victorian police take almost twice as many sick days now than they did 2 years ago.

Breaking down the stigma of mental health problems within the force has been suggested as a cause of this with more police feeling as if they can reach out for help.

The Victorian Police Association also noted the community’s continual mistreatment of law enforcers on the beat.


For Manus updates follow Behrouz Boochani on Twitter.

Can’t Stand By


The Can’t Stand By network exists to make the Australian government’s regime of mandatory detention of refugees so economically, politically and socially expensive that they have no choice but to abandon this policy.
CSB is designed such that it will continue to operate until all offshore detention centres have been closed, the worst of the Australian onshore detention centres have been closed and there is a 30-day limit placed on detention in Australia with periodic judicial review of any detention after that. CSB will continue to apply pressure until these demands are not just an agreement but an operating reality.